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Dorian Pavus ([personal profile] bestdressed) wrote2020-04-07 08:14 pm

blood & wine (geralt)

A summer night in Antiva City is nearly as warm and fragrant as a spring evening in Minrathous. Standing in the midst of the villa's outdoor garden terrace surrounded by night blooming flowers and the press of silk-clad bodies and the scent of free-flowing wine, with the sea breeze off the Rialto Bay, Dorian is reminded enough of home so as to feel a pang of longing without the trappings of actually being in Tevinter. Antivan soirees have the potential to turn out as dangerous as Tevinter ones, but rarely do. The constant warring of the twelve merchant princes has nothing on the daily infighting and petty one-upsmanship of the Magisterium. But Antiva does have the better assassins, Dorian will give them that.

Tonight, however, he's being used as little more than a convenient decorator and a topic of conversation. The magical lights twinkling in the trees around the gardens are his doing, and the guests simply can't stop asking his benefactor how his court was assigned an altus mage of Tevinter. The truth is, of course, that his position here has very little to do with being officially appointed by any organization of mages or sorcerers, and more with being hired for his skills in return for a comfortable life away from the Imperium and the space and funds with which to do his magical research. It stings a little, of course, having to answer to Adrian Mercurio, a merchant prince and therefore an upjumped businessman, but at least no one here is trying to drag him back to his father, and absolutely no one cares who he sleeps with beyond idle gossip. The Antivans are a passionate people, and restrict little when it comes to sex or romance.

A peacock among a crowd of other exotic birds, Dorian still stands out. He is unapologetically Tevinter in the way he dresses and styles himself, from the kohl lining his eyes and gold dust on his lids to the scent he wears (cloves and orange blossom oil dabbed on his pulse points) to his robes, ivory linen with designs of feathers and serpents in spun gold, a high collar and an entirely bare left arm from the shoulder down. On his feet are soft sandals rather than heavy boots in deference to the weather, and his long fingers are decorated with jeweled rings. The picture of Tevinter decadence, and entirely out of place among the brightly dyed silken doublets and puffed sleeves and plumed hats and heavy necklaces preferred by the Antivans.

He does only the requisite socializing, and regrettably keeps his drinking to a single glass of wine. The purpose of this soiree is not, after all, merely to celebrate the success of recent business ventures, or to network, or even to display Mercurio's wealth. It's to reveal (and to slay) a monster in their midst, and it is apparently Dorian's purpose to facilitate this with the witcher they've hired, for whom he keeps a careful eye. It is, of course, nearly impossible not to be mildly distracted by thoughts of the last witcher he'd encountered, over a year ago now. That had been a pleasant meeting. Dorian isn't certain whether he's relieved or disappointed that Mercurio had specifically elected not to hire Geralt of Rivia; he wanted a monster slayer, he said, not a butcher. But surely there are so many other witchers on both the northern and southern continents that the chances that Geralt would answer this particular ad were slim anyway.

Which is why he freezes when he looks across the gathering and meets a pair of familiar yellow eyes by the trellis archway leading from the gardens to the main house
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[personal profile] monsterbytrade 2020-04-10 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
If typically positive includes twitching like a fly-stung horse, well, then Dorian will be pleased with the reaction that the nudge of his shoulder earns him. Geralt narrows his eyes but there is no heat behind the look and in fact, if the mage has taken anything from their time together, it is that jerking like his nerves have been submitted to an electric spell generally-- in Dorian's presence-- is a compliment.

It is not helpful, however, when Geralt is trying to focus. He puts a hand on that bare shoulder (a mistake; Dorian's skin is warm and smooth) and again ends up stroking a thumb across what he can before relenting and dropping his arm to his side. It does not have the desired effect to move Dorian away but as fair as everything else goes, perhaps Geralt is counting the number of times he gets to touch the mage. "You--"

It's a small onslaught, to which he defers. The mention of lyrium makes his throat tight and a strange, bitter taste seep up from under his tongue and he wet his lips, swallowing convulsively. Lyrium is not something that witchers make use of but as part of the Trials even the mention of the substance is linked to half-forgotten memories of pain. "My." He swallows again. "My elixirs are in my room with my bags." He doesn't relish using them in front of a crowd-- but the idea is less stomach-clenching than the thought of having to fight a bruxa amongst the party tonight. This is far from ideal and it shows in his frown. This is not the place. The damage a bruxa could do...

"Dorian. If this truly is bruxa we can't fight her here. She could take out half the people here with one well-placed blast." Not to mention the havoc that would come if she decided to start singing. "I don't want people in the line of fire." Prepare him? Better to lock him somewhere safe. Bruxas were nasty creatures, for all their means of getting entrenched in the lives of unfortunate mortals. They did not take lightly to being attacked.

There was a single, stupid thought: they could leave. He and Dorian. He'd didn't care a whit for the Antivian families. They didn't have to do this.

No, they didn't. But he did. It was part of his code and Geralt knew it, exhaling the smell of clove and orange. A fine, romantic thought-- but not one open to him. "I'll go to my rooms first-- and then to see Mercurio." He wouldn't be caught off-guard.
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[personal profile] monsterbytrade 2020-04-11 10:31 am (UTC)(link)
Even as Geralt is opening his mouth to deal with the foremost thing sticking in his head-- Dorian so easily shifting the pronouns the witcher had used from singular to plural-- a hand is sliding into his. The solid warmth of fingers and palm and the smooth, raised toughness of callouses stop his words in his throat. There is lust and then there is intimacy and Geralt isn't sure where this gesture fits; he can't remember the last time anyone held his hand, a strange but prevalent thought. Had anyone, ever? Surely his mother but he doesn't allow his mind to slip down those well-trod paths.

He sticks there for a moment, looking at their grip, knowing that Dorian must be waiting for him. A reaction, an agreement. But instead he turns their hands over and looks at the mage's dark fingers against his own pale skin. The well-shaped and fine fingernails in comparison to his own, kept short and while now cleaned, clearly the product of a life spent with a sword in hand. He slides his hand away from Dorian's and finally drags his attention upward, bringing his freed hand with it-- and brushes fingertips down the line of the man's jaw. He knows that he needs to focus, it isn't the first time he's thought it even in the last three minutes, but distraction is far easier. Geralt closes his eyes and straightens. He tries to smell the salt of the ocean instead of the man standing next to him.

"He invites a bruxa to a party and expects me to lure it somewhere else?" He tries and fails to conceive of any way he could make that happen, though to be fair his head is mostly still battling his body's reflexes. A workable plan is something that he will have to come up with if the woman is, actually, not a woman-- so he will. Still, the idea that Mercurio thought a party the ideal way for a witcher to meet a monster does not stand the man highly in Geralt's estimation. ... Perhaps not a surprise. "Let's go, then," he says.

As he leads the way back to the small suite he's been given, Geralt details for Dorian what a bruxa is and what it is capable of; it is at least a well-trod and easy conversation to have, facts he knows well enough that is forces his brain down familiar paths. He describes the sonic blasts, the claws and fangs, the shapeshifting. The song of a bruxa is something that lives in his own bones; once heard the discordance of the tune is a hard thing to forget, wrong in a subtle way that is a terrible thing. Geralt knows that he could bring it up if he tries-- so he does not. Part of his training. "If she has control of his mind it's because Valenin has succumbed to the song night after night... it's more of an influence done over time. She does not put words in his mouth, but her survival, her happiness will be an innocent but actionable goal."

He pushes his door open. Nothing has been tidied. The bath is cool in the corner of the room, split silk doublets thrown over a low couch in a heap. Geralt assumes that either the servant had someone better to help or... that the servant had someone better to help. He ignores all of it and heads to the corner to pull a small hard-case from his bags. Talking about the bruxa has helped clear his mind and there's a focus to him now. Better. "Magic won't be terribly effective except to maybe hobble her, only silver can actually kill a bruxa. Defensive spells are good." Oh.

Geralt pauses in his sorting of vials and looks up at Dorian, attention truly on the mage for the first time since falling into the small monster lesson. "You have a specialization?" Most mages did.
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[personal profile] monsterbytrade 2020-04-12 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a sharp clatter of glass as the vial in between fingertips drops an inch back into the case; Geralt blinks at Dorian and then looks down, glad that the thing hadn't broken. Necromancy? The most notoriously difficult of magical proclivities and the most easily infamous-- even as a veteran of things dark and dangerous, Geralt grimaces at the information before he can stop himself. It's not the knowledge of the magic itself, though that can be a terrible, gruesome endeavor, but at the toll it takes on the magician. "Loam," he says, mostly to himself. The smell. Decay. He should have known, only Necromancers are so rare.

The vials are considered differently when he looks back to them, when he takes into consideration the possible new slant of Dorian's talents. Geralt slides a black leather belt, strung with small pouches, free and lays it across a knee. He glances back at Dorian for a moment and the doublet that he's holding. It's almost in two, the split fabric up the center of the back frayed almost to the collar. "I lowered my arms," he says, his tone absolutely flat. There's a practical reason that he wears so much linen and leather, after all. Silks and velvets run with a single-direction weave, easy to tear. He had tried to tell the Lady that but what do witchers know? Geralt is slow and frankly ponderous at mending his own clothing to be sure, but he's made and used his fair share of bandages and he absolutely knows his body. She hadn't listened and several of the poor borrowed doublets had paid the price.

Into the pockets of his belt go a few small phials, the liquids inside different colors and viscosities. The two of a similar nature are marked with different sealing wax even though Geralt could tell the difference simply by holding them. A small camphor of white honey follows and with that the case is closed and set back. He stands, the leather belted around his waist mars the long line that the jacket gives him but the accessory is clearly of a set with the belt of the sword already on his back-- which he pulls tighter and rebuckles so that the sword sits higher over his shoulder. "Your turn."
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[personal profile] monsterbytrade 2020-04-12 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Geralt would rather not do that to a crowd if necessary, but the horror spell is filed away as a possible consideration. A little puking and shitting in fear would be better than death... though perhaps with this crowd, they have different priorities.

The magic used to light the candles would have shivered the snarling wolf's head medallion against his chest except that the silver pendant had pulled at his neck steps before they'd entered the room. Geralt realizes he is holding his breath as they step across the threshold.

The room is drenched in magic.

The chain sitting on his neck seems to shrink a little, tighten like the inward sigh of a noose, and Geralt glances around as he adjusts his eyes to the shift in lighting. He hadn't needed the warning of his wolf's head-- meeting Dorian in person is different then standing in the place he lives. The corona of his magic is thick here; that loamy smell that Geralt had mentioned just minutes ago permeates everything with such an intensity that Geralt can almost imagine that he's back in the Laboratorium, curled over bestiary tomes. The room does not disappoint in that singular regard-- there are books stacked everywhere, lining shelves that look just a tad out of plumb from the weight.

He likes it.

Wandering slowly as Dorian settles in front of his trunk, Geralt skims fingertips across the edge of the vanity and then looks at the gold blush that stains his skin. There is still a part of him-- muted now, but not dormant-- that suggests licking the that shimmering powder from each curve of the mage's muscles. He exhales and then catches the crystalline glint of harsh blue in the low light; the sight of lyrium stiffens his posture for a moment before it passes and then Geralt watches the ritual of Dorian settling into the harness.

There's a blink for the words, but Geralt considers the statement. He's used to coming at things head-on but Dorian has a point. He doesn't feel confident leaving the blade behind, however, not when silver is the only thing that can reliably kill a bruxa. He curls fingers around the strap that slices across his chest. "I don't know if there's another alternative."
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[personal profile] monsterbytrade 2020-04-13 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The medallions that the Wolf School witchers wear were forged in Kaer Morhen long before the battle that brought the battlements and the school low and severed the links in the chain of magicians who kept the secrets of the place. No more new medals. No more new witchers. They are a dying breed-- literally.

These are not thoughts he bothers lingering on with Dorian's hand back against his chest. Death is the very last thing on Geralt's mind. The mage so close to him is life incarnate, a decadent clash of extremes; the gold shimmer and smoked kohl that might have only made him look feminine instead serve to highlight the sharpness of his eyes and the lean cut of his muscles-- paired with the harness, something that shouldn't have a place against the fine cream linen and and delicate gold stitching of the robes-- make Dorian look like an avenging deity, beautiful and terrible. A set of contradictions that instead of causing chaos, serves to elevate the whole. He blinks as Dorian speaks up and focuses briefly on the man's mouth before lifting cat eyes to grey.

The breathy, sad quality of Dorian's laugh midway through his suggestion, as he peels his gaze away, claws at the steel Geralt has spent years building. The walls hold but he feels the tremors. I'm a walking scandal.

The only thing that the witcher can think, ridiculously, is how quickly they could clear the right room together.

A cracked, shudder of something that might be a laugh wallows at the base of Geralt's throat. "I doubt that innocence is proven by hanging it on scandal, in this case," he says, and while he believes the words are true-- a sword is still a sword, a witcher still a witcher by any other name-- they are just words because Geralt's hands are sliding against the high angles of Dorian's jaw to tilt his face up just enough so that he can kiss the man.
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[personal profile] monsterbytrade 2020-04-13 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
The sound Dorian makes against his mouth is another shudder against those inner walls and the push of the man's hands into his hair make something down in the still darkness he's created over the years stir, turn over and stretch, testing the boundaries of its prison.

His body slips against Dorian's as if they were meant to fit together, as if they should have been this way since the beginning of the party, Geralt's thigh between the mage's, chests together, hands up to hold. He kisses, nips at Dorian's lower lip even as he talks. Yes, distracting. He's not the only one. The fingers prickle against his scalp, warm. Geralt's hands slide around Dorian's neck, thumbs tracing the lines of his jaw that he'd followed a moment before. He kisses Dorian again, kisses the words from his mouth. It takes a moment to do anything more than give into this, to let himself taste and indulge. A year. For a year he'd made himself think of anything but this and now it feels impossible. How did he manage?

"We need to find a monster," he finally breaths, putting them temple to temple if taking their mouths out of line might stop what has been started. He can still smell Dorian. The close shave of the mage's hair against Geralt's cheek is sandpaper, fine and electric. "I can't-- we need to focus." He's not helping, he knows. But he also knows that he's been hired to do a job and he has to see it through.
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[personal profile] monsterbytrade 2020-04-17 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
He shouldn't, but he likes the reluctance in Dorian's words. It makes something hot flip over in his stomach. "Stop," he finally says in Tevene; he doesn't need to hear any more of the mage's self-flagellation, it will make no difference-- not to him, not to the situation. "If she's a bruxa," Geralt continues, the husk of his voice still quiet even though his lips are no longer so close to Dorian's skin, "I seriously doubt she'll care who's company I keep, even one as disreputable as you make yourself out to be." His hands slowly relax, moving from the mage's neck to somewhere less-- dramatic.

Less soft. Less warm. Less tempting.

He settles for the man's forearms and exhales, long and slows as he considers possibilities other than leaving this entire country to the sea and the monsters who want it. Geralt isn't sure if this-- them, he and Dorian and this ridiculous inability to keep his hands off of the man-- is a problem or not yet but whatever it is he knows it to be less pressing than the creature that could be preying on this family. If the bruxa finds purchase she will dig in like a burr, catching more and more of the large merchant clan until she has a nest. An army. No matter how much he'd rather see where else on his body Dorian might have put that golden powder, he can't let that happen and the devil take it all.

So Geralt takes one step back, and then manages another, until there is space between them and then one more to force Dorian's hands to drop away even as he removes his own. "A sword is a sword, Dorian, and a silver one more damning still. No man's reputation can save me from what I am." It is bluntly offered, but not intended it to be harsh. He pulls a hand over his mouth with another exhale. Not taking his things isn't to be considered, at this point. He would not be in the same room as a bruxa without them. "Is there somewhere we could go to watch and not be noticed?" It might be harder to get an accurate reading on her but the price any other way might be too costly.
Edited 2020-04-17 14:36 (UTC)
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[personal profile] monsterbytrade 2020-04-20 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
This entire matter is, perhaps, simpler for Geralt. His life is one generally lived without much grey area-- there is action and reaction, there is right and wrong, there is want and need. Generally, as it goes, one side of the scale vastly outweighs the other and there are no messy inbetweens. Perhaps (and absolutely) has his world intentionally been built on this principle in order to make things easy. It is why, in the bathhouse in Novigrad a year ago, Geralt had turned down Dorian's offer to spend the night together. The pull that he'd felt toward the mage, some twist in his chest like a lodestone seeking North, was not something that he could have acted on. So instead of giving water and light to a feeling that might have grown to strangle him, the entire encounter had been brutally pruned and that technique had worked, at least at the time. A year ago, of course, there had been no need to believe that he would ever see Dorian Pavus again. And yet here they stand.

And here they stand. And so, fine. So much for prudence, so much for setting things wanted to the side in favor of logic; he has tried reaction and temperance and this is the result? Geralt is not a man who does the same things to the same result over and again and asks why nothing has changed. This time he will not push away.

The decision lets his chest expand fully for the first time since catching grey eyes across the party. It makes Dorian's closeness easier to bear, the cloves and loam that have Geralt half-mad with urges to simply act on baser instincts. By giving himself the option to indulge later, however-- assuming, of course, that Dorian agrees and this is not all some mad orbit in which they'll both die circling each other-- helps him control himself now. The bruxa is the problem at hand and must be dealt with now; undressing the Tevinter sorcerer and pressing him against the nearest available surface will wait until later.

Geralt does not deny the possibility of how much more pleasant the act might be when their fuses are wound short and tight from the simple act of forbearance.

His lips twitch at the corner into something like amusement at the adage from Dorian; he tends to agree, especially in this regard-- Geralt has generally found that people like Mercurio forgive more easily than they give concession, even when the necks of family members are on the line. "Then let's go set up on the terrace. Lead the way."
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[personal profile] monsterbytrade 2020-04-25 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Geralt is learning that being around Dorian is like being inside city-limits; his medallion seems to be constantly shivering against his chest. The man uses magic for everything. And not that Geralt spends enough general time in the company of mages-- he's never wanted to until now, that is sure-- but he feels that it's still a fair assessment considering what Dorian has told him. At least the candles hadn't lit green before orange.

Necromancy.

Shaking his head at the though, Geralt follows the man down the hall, happy to leave the pressure of the magic behind him. He shrugs his shoulders slightly as if discarding a jacket. Through the corridors and stairwells they go-- Dorian has clearly been here long enough to know the layout of the villa, Geralt is glad to find out. He wonders if Mercurio could go through the servant's routes with such surety. The scant handful of people that they see on their way all wear the livery of the house and most are carrying sheets or food stuffs; after a glance, they are ignored. The sounds of the party are a little jarring when they step outside, especially after what had happened in Dorian's room, but Geralt focuses and follows, ducking into the thick foliage as the mage does, finally taking a knee in a spot that gives him a good view of the revelry below: including Mercurio and his wife. Finally, for a moment, he gives his attention back to Dorian.

"Good." His voice is as low as Dorian's, though without a witcher's senses it might just sound like a whisper of thunder. "Point her out when they come in and we will see." There's a strange thought, that maybe she's just a woman. That's not the strangeness; it's the relief that the job would be over, were that the case. No killing, no money-- just Dorian.
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[personal profile] monsterbytrade 2020-04-26 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Despite liking Dorian's robes far more than he's ever liked a doublet of Jaskier's, Geralt is well-versed at ignoring concern over dirtied garments. When Dorian's focus turns to the crowd to match his own he feels the mage's intention as it settles-- just as he feels the subtle reaction a moment later when those grey eyes find something in particular. Someone. Muscles tense, his breath stops... whoever Anetta is, monster or otherwise, her impression on Dorian is a visceral one. Geralt spares a glance to the man at his side; his bare arm stands with gooseflesh. The witcher's fingers raise an inch from the damp earth and then fall back. He doesn't need to reassure the mage. He looks to where he's pointed.

Between the two of them, it's far easier to find Anetta. Next to her pale beauty, haloed by the wreath of her almost-blue hair, Valentin is wan and forgettable. She's not even looking up in their direction and Geralt can feel something tighten in his belly as she smiles at the man her husband speaks to, the expression full of charm and something else, a sort of craving. The man blinks at her and smiles back. "Not an alpor," he murmurs to himself. The tips of her bare ears are rounded. "Shit. I don't know." From here Geralt certainly could say that something about the woman is off, and that he has learned to trust his gut, but his gut is not conclusive evidence.

"Best way to know would be to get silver near her. How do we get her alone?"
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[personal profile] monsterbytrade 2020-04-27 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
There is good reason why just looking at a bruxa gives little in the way of tangible, monstrous proof, of course; if Anetta spent more of her time resembling a sleek, large bat and less a beautiful woman she'd certainly be easier to spot but she'd hardly have managed to get a ring for her finger and a family with which to make a nest. Unfortunately not even his medallion will help him in this case; vampires have a natural ability to shield themselves from magical detection-- which means silver, yes, or to try and part her from her source of food. One is certainly more subtle than the other but for now he says nothing about Valentin's probable and eventual involvement.

Geralt snorts quietly for Dorian's sarcasm but doesn't turn his attention from the woman below them on the patio, watching how she laughs with her chin down and her eyes open, until the mage asks his set of questions with moral implications. Geralt lets his eyes fall to the grass and then raises them to Dorian slowly. He wonders if the man asks out of genuine curiosity or because of the witcher's reputation-- certainly the same that had kept his name from the Antivian contract originally.

"There are many types of vampires--" that Geralt begins to decide there is perhaps exactly the type of flag that Mercurio had considered when penning his request, "--and they've all adapted since the Conjunction." Killing anything with intelligence is always a tightrope's walk and while bruxae are generally hardly better than feral, out of all of the creatures that prey upon people, vampires have changed the most based on their association with humans. So could this bruxa not have evolved enough to fit in amongst these jumped up caravan smugglers? He imagines that it's possible. "Or," he says with a flattening of lips, "you have a higher vampire and Mercurio will just have to get used to his new sister-in-law's strange drinking habits."
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[personal profile] monsterbytrade 2020-04-28 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
If Anetta were a higher vampire, the concept of an Antivian nest in a merchling family is a very different concept and one that makes so much sense that Geralt is surprised it hasn't happened before. He raises his eyebrows in response to Dorian's joke as if to imply that the levity is only misplaced in the fact that his words are appropriate enough. Geralt has met a few higher vampires whose company he actually thoroughly enjoys. If that were the case it would only be Mercurio's personal biases holding him back from what would likely be a very profitable relationship, though the family fortune would, eventually, be claimed by her in a very long-term way. Would that prove a legal bump for any children that Mercurio may have? Geralt doesn't know-- or rightfully give a damn-- how the princes pass on their legacies.

Geralt considers, turning to look back through the railing and down at the party. "Have you ever seen her reflection?" It's almost an idle question as he studies the luminescent woman again. She stands just far enough from the fountain as to miss the surface of the water-- coincidence or luck? He realizes that he hadn't really answered Dorian's question about letting a bruxa go. He rubs his chin with the back of his hand. "And, no," he offers belatedly, on the heels of his question. "If it is a bruxa, then she won't go... peacefully." He sighs. "So long as your spell doesn't harm her, what will it do?" To have her parted from Valentin would be a good place to start. It would give them time if nothing else.
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[personal profile] monsterbytrade 2020-04-28 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
There are only two of them and now they have parted themselves quite a bit from the party. Spells never work as well on vampires of any kind due to their natures but if it were possible for Dorian's spell to spark something there could possibly be a worse-case scenario of Anetta responding to the fear with aggression. Geralt shakes his head. "The trouble might be that suddenly there's a huge, fear-driven bat in the middle of Mercurio's party," he responds. "I'm relatively sure that won't happen, but." But he doesn't like even an outside chance of putting anyone in danger.

"Which means that we include Valentin. Or." Geralt turns his gaze back to Dorian. He might not know much about his companion but he does understand some of his control and strength with magic, enough, certainly, to know that the man does not need protection-- no matter how much the strange feeling that curls into the pit of his stomach demands otherwise. His yellow eyes are steady on the man at his side. "Or we use live bait." Either of the new suggestions puts Dorian closer to the line of fire; it is just a matter of degrees. He is open to other possibilities.

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